Size counts when it comes to vises....I have two different sizes, a 4" and a 6"(wide jaws) and swivel base. Get as much as you can afford.....garage sales are great place to find quality vises. Also a good quality work bench to mount it to so ... I use the 6" more than anything, its big and solid and holds. Like most guys I skimped and got a 4" and then realized it was not cutting the mustard, then stumbled across a really nice 6" at an estate sale for about 50 bucks! ...